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		<title>Comment on Lorna Dee Cervantes by Lorna Dee Cervantes</title>
		<link>http://doubleentendre48.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/lorna-dee-cervantes/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorna Dee Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not bad at all. Too bad linebreaks and form weren&#039;t preserved - they provide half the content. It&#039;s in the shape of half a Valentine heart.

I wrote it after the absence of an abusive lover, an artist I was with for a couple of years. It was a relationship that probably should never have started and was hard to give up. &quot;Crush&quot; yes. And then, the reality. He used to climb the cherry trees outside my window like a monkey in a way that made me smile. Then, he wasn&#039;t there and I knew I&#039;d never see him again. Still, yes, one is mad about what is lost. But, just like the butterflies transcend worlds and give into some ancient instinct, there is the urge to return to the source, some dark matter. But one must live, not just for oneself, but for the seven generations to come, as well as recognize that we are the consequence of seven generations before us. And all the small signs of the world clue us in as to what it is we must do. It gives us the strength to take another turn. To take back one&#039;s life - and limb. To mature from the fallen petals to the fruit of one&#039;s life in peace.

But those we love, for right or wrong, remain. We can dream them back. But under the x-ray of our examination. We can see into some kind of healthy truth, some extraction, some surgery: that pain of removing someone from our lives who is bad for us, who is making us weak and sick, who is hurting us. The thrown stones: hurtful words, blows, are like the hail storm that blows in and ruins the crop. Those sweet cherries we were so looking forward to and now will never have - not in this season, not from those blooms.

But, still, we miss the absent lover. And in our dreams, much is revealed. This is a literal dream, he was transformed into a skeleton (significant as he carved bones as an artist) and looked like an xray of himself again climbing through my trees, stripping off the fruit to eat. A &quot;decayed holo-gram&quot; because his power diminishes in time; it doesn&#039;t hurt as much. I know, at that point, that it too shall pass. A &quot;holo&quot; (hollow) &quot;-gram&quot; an empty letter, a fake message, an illusion (of love) and not the real thing. Now some trickster xray for this new physician/surgeon (pruner?) 

&quot;My forever empty art&quot;  (I forget how the line breaks go now - it was over 20 years ago) is a reference to me, the poet, staring out the window, feeling that keen regret (for dumping him), for his now absence from my trees, looking over the same scene but in the light of another season (Valentines Day, when the butterflies return to Natural Bridges near where I was living in Santa Cruz at the time) and transformed. At least I can make something out of it all. Yes, it&#039;s an art. I&#039;d rather have him in a healthy relationship, but this art has, once again, saved me. Better to miss the guy than suffer the &quot;slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not bad at all. Too bad linebreaks and form weren&#8217;t preserved &#8211; they provide half the content. It&#8217;s in the shape of half a Valentine heart.</p>
<p>I wrote it after the absence of an abusive lover, an artist I was with for a couple of years. It was a relationship that probably should never have started and was hard to give up. &#8220;Crush&#8221; yes. And then, the reality. He used to climb the cherry trees outside my window like a monkey in a way that made me smile. Then, he wasn&#8217;t there and I knew I&#8217;d never see him again. Still, yes, one is mad about what is lost. But, just like the butterflies transcend worlds and give into some ancient instinct, there is the urge to return to the source, some dark matter. But one must live, not just for oneself, but for the seven generations to come, as well as recognize that we are the consequence of seven generations before us. And all the small signs of the world clue us in as to what it is we must do. It gives us the strength to take another turn. To take back one&#8217;s life &#8211; and limb. To mature from the fallen petals to the fruit of one&#8217;s life in peace.</p>
<p>But those we love, for right or wrong, remain. We can dream them back. But under the x-ray of our examination. We can see into some kind of healthy truth, some extraction, some surgery: that pain of removing someone from our lives who is bad for us, who is making us weak and sick, who is hurting us. The thrown stones: hurtful words, blows, are like the hail storm that blows in and ruins the crop. Those sweet cherries we were so looking forward to and now will never have &#8211; not in this season, not from those blooms.</p>
<p>But, still, we miss the absent lover. And in our dreams, much is revealed. This is a literal dream, he was transformed into a skeleton (significant as he carved bones as an artist) and looked like an xray of himself again climbing through my trees, stripping off the fruit to eat. A &#8220;decayed holo-gram&#8221; because his power diminishes in time; it doesn&#8217;t hurt as much. I know, at that point, that it too shall pass. A &#8220;holo&#8221; (hollow) &#8220;-gram&#8221; an empty letter, a fake message, an illusion (of love) and not the real thing. Now some trickster xray for this new physician/surgeon (pruner?) </p>
<p>&#8220;My forever empty art&#8221;  (I forget how the line breaks go now &#8211; it was over 20 years ago) is a reference to me, the poet, staring out the window, feeling that keen regret (for dumping him), for his now absence from my trees, looking over the same scene but in the light of another season (Valentines Day, when the butterflies return to Natural Bridges near where I was living in Santa Cruz at the time) and transformed. At least I can make something out of it all. Yes, it&#8217;s an art. I&#8217;d rather have him in a healthy relationship, but this art has, once again, saved me. Better to miss the guy than suffer the &#8220;slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lorna Dee Cervantes by Grief and more</title>
		<link>http://doubleentendre48.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/lorna-dee-cervantes/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Grief and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;:)&lt;/strong&gt;

Good read! Thank you!</description>
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<p>Good read! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sylvia Plath by Mr. Teacher</title>
		<link>http://doubleentendre48.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/sylvia-plath/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, pretty bleak.  any shred of hope? salvation? any humanity?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sylvia Plath by hwood295</title>
		<link>http://doubleentendre48.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/sylvia-plath/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>hwood295</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i definitely agree with you on this one. you can try all you want for perfection, but no matter how much you try you will never get it. that is part of the struggle, it is the absolute sacrifice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i definitely agree with you on this one. you can try all you want for perfection, but no matter how much you try you will never get it. that is part of the struggle, it is the absolute sacrifice</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tu Fu by Kate</title>
		<link>http://doubleentendre48.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/tu-fu/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its an interesting thing, trying to figure out mr english&#039;s question if we are a river or a day. Rivers flow and are renewed with water, adding to a greater sum. Days come to an end, but there is the knowledge that there will be another day. While one may come to an end, a new one is bound to start. I personally think we are like a river, because while both the day and river continue to flow in a routine manor, the river can grow over time and is part of a bigger picture. The day starts and ends, and is the same in terms of structure and order. A river is unique in that is has its own bends and journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its an interesting thing, trying to figure out mr english&#8217;s question if we are a river or a day. Rivers flow and are renewed with water, adding to a greater sum. Days come to an end, but there is the knowledge that there will be another day. While one may come to an end, a new one is bound to start. I personally think we are like a river, because while both the day and river continue to flow in a routine manor, the river can grow over time and is part of a bigger picture. The day starts and ends, and is the same in terms of structure and order. A river is unique in that is has its own bends and journey.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tu Fu by mr english</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr english</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some things end, like days.  some never end (sort of), like rivers and springws...  some depend entirely on perspective, like hair color.  or time: age...  
shall we flicker and extinguish?  and someone replaces us, no?  so are we a river or a day?
what&#039;s the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some things end, like days.  some never end (sort of), like rivers and springws&#8230;  some depend entirely on perspective, like hair color.  or time: age&#8230;<br />
shall we flicker and extinguish?  and someone replaces us, no?  so are we a river or a day?<br />
what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Strand: &#8230;his words take millions of words to describe&#8230; by music</title>
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		<dc:creator>music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting. 
i&#039;m adding in RSS Reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting.<br />
i&#8217;m adding in RSS Reader</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stephen Crane by mr english</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr english</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmm...pretty bleak stuff in crane here, don&#039;t you think?
wouldn&#039;t this world be so much nicer if god was not so cold?  does he have to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm&#8230;pretty bleak stuff in crane here, don&#8217;t you think?<br />
wouldn&#8217;t this world be so much nicer if god was not so cold?  does he have to be?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Billy Collins&#8217; Introduction by Mr. Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can&#039;t be afraid of what might happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#8217;t be afraid of what might happen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Melancholy- John Keats by Mr. Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m betting bedingfield hasn&#039;t read much of the three...
anyway, i like the way you&#039;re exploring this poem; it&#039;s a long journey to get places. think about that idea of pain and pleasure intertwined somehow--one isn&#039;t possible without the other.  melancholy cannot help but stick its nose into the happy times, can it?  so what are we feeling, then, really? what are we celebrating? could it be we&#039;re tapping into a deeper sense of melancholy in us we didn&#039;t notice? is there a less than happy spot  in us we&#039;re not paying much attention to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m betting bedingfield hasn&#8217;t read much of the three&#8230;<br />
anyway, i like the way you&#8217;re exploring this poem; it&#8217;s a long journey to get places. think about that idea of pain and pleasure intertwined somehow&#8211;one isn&#8217;t possible without the other.  melancholy cannot help but stick its nose into the happy times, can it?  so what are we feeling, then, really? what are we celebrating? could it be we&#8217;re tapping into a deeper sense of melancholy in us we didn&#8217;t notice? is there a less than happy spot  in us we&#8217;re not paying much attention to?</p>
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